I'm also going to call First Quality and ask if they'd recut the base for me. Hide these Google ads: join the Players Union! We use cookies to ensure that we give you the best experience on our website. Many of us believe the neck to tonering and rim joint is important to be well fitted and snug. You will not only have to shim where the neck meets the pot, but you will also have to shave the dowel stick to get the fit just right. 'Luscomb Banjo Serial Numbers: ' 34 min, 'Boil the Cabbage Down bluegrass banjo lesson by Chris Quinn.' Sometimes, if the head is tensioned before mounting the neck, there is a bit of bulge of the hoop, and it holds the neck back a little, and can make a big difference in the action.Try loosening the hoop entirely (with the neck in place) and then tighten the neck bolts, then re-tighten the head. ban-joe - Posted - 04/10/2008: 17:51:30, I've used aluminum from a soda can, and that seems to work fine. These are about 1" long with knurled heads measuring 1/2" in diameter. Fiddles, cellos, guitars, and yes, even banjos have a small angle built into the neck/body joint. Help! You may, however, start a new topic and refer to this topic with a link: http://www.banjohangout.org/archive/113454, Tanbark - Posted - 04/09/2008: 22:32:22. The neck is hitting the tension hoop at the fingerboard and it would take a lot of sanding to give enough room for a solid neck to pot fit. I also might ask what strings you are using. Take your playing to the next level with the help of a local or online banjo teacher. I've had good results with aluminum flashing, feeler gauges, wood veneers, and even shaped wood coffee stirrers from Starbucks.I once spent a morning experimenting with different materials--metal, wood veneers, plastic--and found no difference in tone that I could tell.However, some very knowledgeable people here on the Hangout counsel against any kind of shims, preferring a small space between the neck and the tension hoop.Your mileage may vary...Best,John~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~John Millerej.miller@ndsu.edu or ejmiller@ideaone.net, Ian_banjo - Posted - 04/11/2008: 09:15:08, The general feeling here is that shimming doesn't much affect the tone if it is done right, but my only experience contradicts this. Before any adjustments are made to change the string action on your banjo neck, the neck should be examined for proper straightness. I would not recommend letting someone recut the neck. twang! Edited by - steve davis on 03/07/2019 07:35:52. I've heard that brass sheetmetal "shim-stock", as it's called, works pretty good, so I may try that. If you decide to reverse it you're not out anything.good luck,Joe, ban-joe - Posted - 04/10/2008: 17:52:16, Edited by - ban-joe on 04/10/2008 17:53:21, snakeherd - Posted - 04/10/2008: 18:18:34, beeliner - Posted - 04/10/2008: 21:44:48, A "feeler gauge" mentioned by Alex Z works great with no change in tone. Conversely, shimming until there's a gap between the fret board and the tension band may very well lower the string height to be unacceptable or unplayable. Terms of Use | Privacy Policy | Copyright 2020 Banjo Hangout. I've had the best results using brass strips I pickup at the local hardware store.For what it's worth.Take care,Jim. I keep a dozen or so popsicle sticks and a black Sharpie marker in my toolchest... these usually work fine for run-of-the-mill banjo setup.... not recommended for a fine, vintage banjo. This will allow the hoop to fit tighter against the rim. Dowel sticks are a pain in the rear. The Gibson I worked on for a friend had a high action and a thin shim at the back of the heel. ', 'Bart Reiter 11” Bacophone Plus, Whyte Laydie & Bacon tone ring & HSC'. Adding a taller bridge or adjusting the string height with the truss rod (NEVER an acceptable setup step...) are poor methods of adjusting string height. Conversely, shimming until there's a gap between the fret board and the tension band may very well lower … I've heard that shimming a neck can change the tone, sometimes for the better. Solid hard maple .040 ±.005 (1mm ±.08mm) thick neck shim for Strat or Tele bodies whose neck pocket is 11/16 deep. Banjo Building, Setup, and Repair
The neck heel is machined to fit our Five-Star bluegrass banjo pot, or similar 11" (279.40mm)-diameter Mastertone-style banjo rim with one-piece resonator flange. country frank - Posted - 04/10/2008: 09:32:43, Thor, it looks like you have had to cut the heel pretty significantly on your stealth judging by the endgrain visible on that picture. ARCHIVED TOPIC: Effect of shimming a neck? However, if you do not have the proper tools, it is very difficult to recut a heelpiece yourself. Peghead Nation Instructor Evie Ladin
Thanks, guys. KCJones - Posted - 03/05/2019: 07:08:23. In order to avoid buzzing on the strings, I have to use a 3/4, maybe even a liiittle higher, bridge. Please note that this neck heel shape will not fit a Gibson ® "tube and plate" rim, nor a straight-sided rim such as our Old-Time banjo pot. Other Banjo-Related Topics
The banjo needs good vibrational coupling between the pot and the neck, which is why cutting the heel to fit the pot is such a critical operation. Weekly newsletter includes free lessons, favorite member content, banjo news and more. Can be used in various ways by banjo … DVD-quality lessons (including tabs/sheet music) available for immediate viewing on any device. It sounds like no one is dead set agin shimming, if it's done decent, with the right material. Above that, it's best to use two -- for example, if you need .014, then use a .008 and a .006.Softer material such as plastic stock, a playing card, or a credit card will definitely affect the tone, for the worse. G Edward Porgie - Posted - 03/05/2019: 11:53:04. Really appreciate the responses. Bill Rogers - Posted - 04/09/2008: 22:36:36, Typically a neck is shimmed to lower the action, which isn't your problem. ARCHIVED TOPIC: Should I shim the neck? Includes metal spacer, wood shim and 2 brass tacks shown only.
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