I assume you mean the diamond rods. About Press Copyright Contact us Creators Advertise Developers Terms Privacy Policy & Safety How YouTube works Test new features They have diamond rods and cubic boron nitride rods. Discussion in 'Maintenance, Tinkering & Embellishment' started by Razor, Oct 21, 2017. Post by Dreaded » Wed Feb 19, 2020 6:30 pm As a toolmaker I use diamond grinding wheels on carbides, and ceramics, CBN I use for tool steels. The slow speed of hand sharpening doesn’t create enough heat to be detrimental to diamond which is why they both work in sharpening rods. Spyderco's CBN rods match up very well with their Diamond sharpening rods, which I have used for quite awhile. About 5 super light strokes per side, after apexing on bench diamond stones, and it did get these blades noticeably sharper. ), For Sharpmaker primary sharpening stone option for super steels: I order a few grits of the Congress Tools silicon carbide. Post by TkoK83Spy » Wed Feb 19, 2020 6:28 pm . Search Advanced search. Some threads at Spyderco forums are relevant to this discussion. The Spyderco Ultrafine ceramics. In theory diamond isn’t ideal for use on ferrous materials. I tested this with my UF rods just last night. Simple question: CBN vs. Diamond rods Discussion in 'Spyderco' started by Valle, Apr 10, 2015. Apr 10, 2015 #1. No point just referencing that thread. Linked below For Sharpmaker finishing stone options for super steels, will try 2 options. The CBN rods have settled into a slightly finer grit/finish than the diamond rods--barely noticeable, though. By varying the number of passes you can generate an edge which has the essential behavior of any grit between the two. If you ever want to reprofile and thin out your blade, or repair a chip...you cut your time in half using those over the brown stones. I'm guessing if they get too bad Spyderco will As a toolmaker I use diamond grinding wheels on carbides, and ceramics, CBN I use for tool steels. It would take A LONG TIME to do either of those things with a Sharpmaker brown stone. Google Ken Schwartz, dude makes tons of strop pastes and shit out of the stuff. That and curiosity to try CBN. See Diamond vs CBN rods grit - Spyderco Forums and CBN Rods - Spyderco Forums So the spyderco sharpmaker cbn SP204CBN rods/stones are about same grit as diamonds, 400 mesh , or 40 microns or P360 or J400 Apparently CBN rods aren't any harder to damage than diamonds , just use them dry with high force see CBN Rods - Page 7 - Spyderco Forums My bad. Re: CBN vs Daimond SM rods? The comparison then is how do they work vs the diamond rods and the medium ceramic rods, other interesting questions would be vs the moldmaster and other secondary systems which can be used with the Sharpmaker. The CBN Rods for the Sharpmaker are more coarse than the diamond if I'm not mistaken. 5 years ago I would definitely recommend the diamond/CBN rods over the … CBN is just as hard as diamond and works approximately the same though in high speed cutting applications for some reason is harder than diamond. CBN or Diamond aren't "accessories" and should be a part of everyone's sharpening stable. IMO go with CBN. me2. 24 posts Previous; 1; 2; TkoK83Spy Member Posts: 4846 Joined: Mon Sep 17, 2018 11:32 pm Location: Syracuse, NY. Forum rules. In operation since 1998, BladeForums.com has led the industry since Day 1. https://bladeforums.com/threads/can-you-use-ceramics-to-sharpen-s30-90-110v-or-not.1519674/, https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/can-you-use-ceramics-to-sharpen-s30-90-110v-or-not.1519674/, https://www.spyderco.com/forumII/viewtopic.php?t=66087, https://www.spyderco.com/forumII/viewtopic.php?t=63254, https://www.spyderco.com/forumII/viewtopic.php?t=68482, http://www.cliffstamp.com/knives/forum/read.php?10,26465, (You must log in or sign up to reply here. They work very well. Again, not optimal, but these DO seem to work to refine an already sharp and apexed edge on super steels like S30v and S35vn. The CBN Rods for the Sharpmaker are more coarse than the diamond if I'm not mistaken. Postby TkoK83Spy » Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:28 pm, Postby Dreaded » Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:30 pm, Postby Wartstein » Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:50 pm, Postby Bill1170 » Thu Feb 20, 2020 1:00 am, Users browsing this forum: Ankerson, Majestic-12 [Bot], p_atrick, prndltech and 42 guests. The more passes you do the closer it will come to the medium rod finish. They're really affordable, so easy to get a few and try them. IIRC, Sal said the CBN rods should hold up better than the Diamonds due to an improved process that retains the CBN particles better. I have a pair and they are pretty good. Agree with the Congress Tools recommendation, if using Sharpmaker, I'd definitely be checking out their different stones including Ruby and MoldMaker. These CBN rods are especially helpful with harder "supersteels" like Maxamet, S110V, and ZDP-189, saving lots of sharpening time initially before moving onto the Spyderco medium rods.Pay heed to the cautions about not applying too much pressure on your sharpening passes. Two different abrasives. Definitely a big step up from the brown stones. So, lacking a high-grit diamond/cbn stone to finish super steels in the SM, perhaps the UF stone is an ok fallback option. 5 years ago CBN is just as hard as diamond and works approximately the same though in high speed cutting applications for some reason is harder than diamond. Based on that I got the CBN rods. Discuss Spyderco's products and history. Apex on the diamond rods, do just a couple of passes on the medium rods - check the edge. level 2. If you ever want to reprofile … Re: Sharpmaker : CBN rods : 400 grit.mesh March 15, 2014 09:09AM Registered: 8 years ago Posts: 2,619 To be fair, using the blocks horizontally is an idea I got … CBN or Diamond aren't "accessories" and should be a part of everyone's sharpening stable. Valle . Get the mold masters like suggested here ^. Apr 8, 2006 ... A German rep and seller of Spyderco equipment informed me that the CBN rods were developed to replace the diamond rods because these tended to loose particles / prone to fall off, if to much pressure was applied by the user. 130. Reply Quote. It wasn't talking specifically about super steels as the OP is, but the question was how to incorp the diamond/cbn rods into your sharpening strategy. Re: CBN vs Daimond SM rods? Google Ken Schwartz, dude makes tons of strop pastes and shit out of the stuff. edited 6 years ago. Spyderco Counterfeits, Clones, Replicas, etc. Top three going by pocket-time: Endura 4 in VG 10/Micarta-scales; Stretch 1 in VG 10; Endura 4 in HAP 40. Didn't read above. The grit does wear off though which is pretty frustrating.
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