the easiest thing to do here is parallel comp them with a cool comp/distortion plugin or amp thingy and be done with it... but it didn't even sound like they did that. In so much as I can't think of any hiphop from today that sounds sonically relaxed enough for me to say that honestly. Squish it until it's a solid snappy pop (it doesn't have to sound "good" on it's own). To sound like him learn to use his tools. the worst snare sounds come from people hitting the drum so hard they choke it....in most cases I have gotten the biggest drum sounds from people hitting the drums like "girls". i have really crappy digidesign compressors (protools LE 7.1). You can fake the effect of a Transient Designer. Then put a compressor on it with a fairly high ratio and fast attack/release. Hey there! Hey there! The record is about 3-5rms quieter than current hip hop records. You need an account to post a reply. SPL DrumXchanger Plugin - based on Transient Designer. The drumkit is one instrument, so make sure you treat it as one, not several. Probably not what you are looking for but... As was said, hit the snare like you want to kill it. Any opinions on whether it's easier to add "beef" or "pop" after the fact? When you buy products through links across our site, we may earn an affiliate commission. Just a friendly reminder that political discussion, (including "offhand" and 'sideways' commenting) is. Make a duplicate of the top snare track. Just a friendly reminder that political discussion, (including "offhand" and 'sideways' commenting) is. I don't understand the answers that people are giving saying you need to whack the snare hard to get pop. I understand this thread may be geared toward tweaking sounds after they are captured to tape, but as far as the source is concerned, in addition to the drummer's playing style, the type of snare drum itself has a huge impact on the sound -- the diameter and depth, the type of wood, the head, tuning/tightness of the head, and even the sticks used to strike the head help contribute to more or less "pop.". i just listened to the song and maybe i'm going deaf but, it wasn't popping all that much and it didn't blow me away. I also agree with Roc that the bottom snare mic is not your friend. The SPL Transient Designer is an excellent tool for this kind of process. Click here to login, The ability to reply to and create new discussions, Access to members-only giveaways & competitions, Interact with VIP industry experts in our guest Q&As, Access to members-only sub forum discussions, Get INSTANT ACCESS to the world's best private pro audio, Promote your eBay auctions and Reverb.com listings for free. Starts with a decent snare, printed hot out of the mpc, and isn't crushed to death. A great player on a well tuned-quality snare will get you most of the way there. Thats the #1 problem with everything, not just with drums. YouTube - Jab'o Starks & Clyde Stubblefield Funky Drummers. It's hard to explain so here's an example: Cypress Hill - Illusions (LP Version Instrumental) - YouTube The snare sounds so sick If someone knows how, it would be awesome if you could share. Then put a compressor on it with a fairly high ratio and fast attack/release. Put a gate on it with a fast attack, fast/medium release and a fairly high threshold, so you're just getting a snappy pop coming through. Depends on how tight and the style of music. The reality is that the answer to this (and other questions like "how do I make my mix hit hard, be phat etc") is the sum of MANY things. Coupled with some tasteful gating you could really make the snare explode. This one's not too tough. Kind of saddens me. We've had to install four channels in the control room to find out we needed eight!!!!! Make snare and kick "pop" Does anyone know how to make the snare and kick "pop"? By compressing the initial peak you are able to bring the rest of the snare sound up loader in relation to that peak. If he's hitting the snare like girl, you can't make him sound like a man, [without making him mad], like to make him mad and put a picture of George WB on the snare....that gets. Rimshots help of course. Try experimenting with amp sims. First, and always foremost, player and drums. Put a gate on it with a fast attack, fast/medium release and a fairly high threshold, so you're just getting a snappy pop coming through. A good drummer can use low to medium power and make the thing really snap. These sort of questions are odd because they seem to imply that there is a single magic trick or solution that the OP is looking for. Then mix it in with the original snare track. It is pretty easy to get drums to "pop" when the track doesn't have to be absurdly loud (RMS) and the rest of the arrangement is made up of fairly light and laid back sounds. I've messed around with some on drums before and it really made them punchy. I could listen to that beat all day long. You can really tighten up the "ring" of the drum, or do exactly this; bring out a sharp attack of the snare. Make sure ALL mics on the drumkit are in phaze. Food for thought... Gain staging properly will solve this problem every time with no FX needed when you need something to pop or punch you will have room for it to punch and snap. As much as this may hurt some egos, with the right players, our job is simply just to not mess it up! i have really crappy digidesign compressors (protools LE 7.1) and i wanna make my srnare really pop. I think getting something simple like kick & snare to pop is easy no getting the whole mix to sound good a totally different thing! I'd try what the rest of these guys are saying and then finally if you have to, do some EQ. stick a stick in it and put it in the freezer.heh. Make a duplicate of the top snare track. Cypress Hill - Illusions (LP Version Instrumental) - YouTube, Remote SL 37 mk I vs SL 49 mkII vs MPK 49, Already have an account? The word 'pop' makes me think of a snare with a tight top head. In this case you'd wanna start with the kick/snare and bring in the other stuff around them. These guys always get plenty of pop out of their snares and they don't need to thrash the living daylights out of the snare! They're excellent for the entire drum kit, because you can tighten up the attack and release in about 3 seconds without affecting tone; unless you slam them. And the drum has to be tuned right. It's all become like hard work. Squish it until it's a solid snappy pop (it doesn't have to sound "good" on it's own). After that, theres a millon different ways to capture it. Do you use the Transient Designer in tandem with a compressor? One thing at a time. I'm finding that a very low angle snare top on it's own is a better way to go, particularly if you are picking up some brightness in the overheads and rooms. Metric Halo Channel Strip + snare sample = wak&pop, I'm surprised that no one has mentioned that you should make sure the top head is tuned fairly tight. Lately I've gotten quite good results by handing the job of a parallel gate plus compressor over to a Transient Designer (plus EQ). It can add some nice sizzle but it has a strange attack and plays havoc with the kick phase. Create a username and password below and an account will be created and your post entered. sweep through with an accentuated bandpass with a narrow q and find the frequencies that add that 'pop' sound. This makes the snare sound thicker or sustain-y-er. thumbsup It's more of a technique thing than anything actually. If it doesn't "POP" and if it doesn't sound good right from the start, then no mixing technique and no gear will make it. It also blurs the snare slightly. The last one is a big part of it. i mic'ed both top and bottom, have the phase flipped on the bottom one...i've been messing around with a longer attack time/shorter release time with a moderate ratio and moderately low threshold... it sounds okay, but is lacking on some hits... Get rid of the bottom snare microphone unless you like the sound of the strainer taking your head off. Honestly it's just a matter of skilled arranging/mixing to make the drums "pop" in context with the rest of the sounds. DJ Muggs used the SP1200 (with good samples). When you buy products through links across our site, we may earn an affiliate commission. If it's loose, you'll get 'poop' instead of 'pop.'.
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